Josh Turner

  • Josh Turner commented on the post, Assignment 5 3 months ago

    Learning about economic changes brought about by the civil war that you motioned was very interesting. I did not know the impact the civil war had on how taxes where levied and who they were levied on. I found this to be very insightful in helping understand why things are the way they are today. If only our debt was 2.7 billion today…

  • Josh Turner commented on the post, Assignment 5 3 months ago

    This is a very interesting topic. I have never given much thought to who was court marshaled and for what during the war. In thinking about this topic another question was raised for me. What happened to political prisoners and captured soldiers after the war was over?

  • Josh Turner commented on the post, Assignment #5 3 months ago

    I look forward to learning from your final project. Women’s role in the Civil War is something that I believe tends to be overlooked when compared to wars such as WWII. Where I feel like I have a general knowledge of the important roles women played in WWII I also feel like that same personal knowledge is missing for the Civil War.

  • Josh Turner commented on the post, Assignment 5 3 months ago

    I really think this is great topic to cover. When you think of the American Civil War naval warfare isn’t what most people typically think of. Learning more about the somewhat significant role that the North’s naval superiority played in the outcome of the war will be very interesting.

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    For my final project I have decided to focus on the preservation of historically significant Civil War sites. It’s not hard to imagine that since the civil war our nation has continued to advance and in […]

    • One thing that I think would be beneficial to include is what preserving war sights means for the land, what do they put on the land? is their a memorial? would people be able to visit the land? etc.

    • Do you have an thoughts as to why there are many more Confederate memorial sites than there are Union memorial sites?

    • Really interesting to note that many nonprofits are the leading source of funding for these sites.

    • As someone who has visited a number of Civil War battlefields, this is a very interesting topic to me personally. I hope that we as a nation do everything in our power to preserve as many sites as we can. It’s important to be reminded how fragile our democracy is, and the steep cost of allowing it to fall apart.

    • As this country gets more crowded I always wonder how long land preservation will last. I’ve seen debate over national forests, wouldn’t be surprised if historical sites are in danger too.

    • This is a very interesting topic. I like that you’re focusing on what exactly deems a civil war site worthy of saving. Preservation of geologically historical sites is essential to the study of societies and cultures and I think it’s very important that we make this a priority as our population expands.

    • That is a very interesting topic. I think what I find most interesting is the process in which the maps have been labeled as areas having historic significance. That really is quite insightful into just how much land was used during the war. My advice to you would be to fine tune your thesis into something a little more applicable by your sources alone. While the preservation of land is of course an important area, perhaps your thesis should focus more so on the land that was prioritized back then and why it was important. Sometimes the most important pieces of land are probably nothing now. That could be an interesting area to look into more.

  • I also ran into the scale problem. Guess that’s what happens when the ones making the maps are not the ones who made the battle reports. Along those same lines I also found that in comparing the report I read with the maps there where landmarks that were not depicted. It would have been much easier if each battle report was submitted with a map m…[Read more]

  • I completely agree with your statement that, “the biggest challenge for historians when it comes to explaining the way a battle was won through personally written accounts is the fact that people don’t always remember everything that happened, especially with the stress and pressure of war”. This presents a big issue in determining the accur…[Read more]

  • Like you I found McPherson’s map to be the most accurate. The one shortcoming that it and all of the other maps had is that they were limited in what they could show. In reading my battle report I found that the troops moved around far more than what could be depicted.

  • I too struggled with finding the troops I originally decided to track. I actually struggled so much so that I decide to look at a map first, and identify troops that I could find a battle report for. I didn’t need to do this but I did. It just goes to show the struggle of patching an accurate image together using these old primary sources.

  • For this assignment I chose to follow the movements of Maj. Gen. John A. McClerand, U.S. Army, commanding First Division. In Reading Major McClerand’s report on the Battle of Shiloh I quickly discovered the g […]

    • I agree that the hardest part of research is cross-referencing the primary sources, especially if they are conflicting. At that point, I think even more primary sources need to be examined, but it could be easy to lose yourself in that. However, that’s where new conclusions come from. Without exploring more primary sources, we could be working from history that is slanted, cursory or limited in scope.

    • I would agree that the best way to get the most accurate picture of the battle is through cross referencing a great deal of primary sources from both sides. I found that when going through several reports there were many cases of the soldiers exaggerating the cowardice of the enemy or their own valor. History is written my the victors and I feel that is the case when looking through these reports, depending on which side you read the battle seems to have transpired in two different ways.

    • I really enjoyed your analysis on how the comparison of the plethora of maps would be difficult to compare because of who is interpreting the resources and providing a layout because I do agree that it is all about perception.

    • I agree that cross-referencing can be a difficult aspect of analysis when approaching primary sources. The positionality changes with each individual and – with each – the bias of the author can bring forth a different approach. It is up to historians to take the resources handed to them and determine the accepted narrative based on the most consistent information found.

    • I agree with you that recreating and mapping the events is a great challenge. As different people writing reports and making maps, it does hardly to match all the informations for historians . I believe different map makers would mark more information about the battlefield landscapes of the battles they involved. Which may not be a helpful tool to match another report which is not happened in this area.

  • For this project I’m leaning towards using one of the “Civil War Then and Now” photos off of The Center for Civil War Photography website as my “object”. More specifically I think I’m going to use the GETTYSBURG: […]

  • I found that by adding comparisons from your grandfathers personal recollections you were able to give your post extra weight. That personal level that you were able to achieve by doing this really held my attention and made me wish that I could have heard some of his stories. Great job.

  • We I read your piece your views of slavery going into this seemed very similar to what I thought as well. Probably because that is what we learn in school and see in popular culture. Like you this project helped me get a deeper understanding of slaver through firsthand account from former slaves.

  • Like you I feel like I had a solid understanding of slavery. In reading these personal accounts I also discovered that I had more questions. With the large spread in treatment of slaves I wonder what the motivation and belief system was for each of these different slave holders. On top of that it makes me wonder how these “nicer” slave owners jus…[Read more]

  • I reading your interpretation of your slave narrative you raised a few good points. One is the different struggles faced by men and women in a slave holding nation. Another good thing you pointed out was that even the slave who was treated way better than Bibb wanted her freedom. This raises the point that treatment aside all slavery is wrong.…[Read more]

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    I believe that slavery was more predominate in the south where slaves were forced to work on large cotton, tobacco, or other plantations. As far as slavery in the north goes I believe i […]

    • I also learned that there was evidence of slaves believing that they had a positive relationship with their slave owners. I equate it with what goes on today when a battered woman doesn’t realize that she’s in a bad relationship because she thinks it’s the norm so she continues to love and cherish her abuser.

    • Learning how much slaves’ experiences varied based on their owners and locations, makes me question what other historical events we have a skewed perception of. There have been many wars and institutions in America (for instance, wage laborers in Northern industry) where I am confident that experiences varied also varied like slavery. This supports Professor Summerhill’s point that history is not about recovering known facts, it’s about piecing together resources and varying stories to try to form an understanding of a time. This concept is so much different that some subjects, like math, where concrete truths are known.

    • For my assignment I ended up using Silas Abbott’s account as well and had a similar reaction to it, the fact that he equated the relationship between himself and his owner as family was very shocking to me. It’s an interesting example that shows that not everything is as black and white as it may appear to be at first glance.

    • I find it shocking but at the same time not so surprising that some slaves found a positive relationship with their owners, but then it also makes you think of how deeply they were conditioned to think it was okay to be owned by someone and objectified, regardless of how “well” the owner treated his slaves. It is great to see the different accounts that each person has experienced but it also reinforces my belief that although there were some owners less harsh than others, they were all abusing human moral and treating other beings as if they were nothing more than a disposable object.

    • I also believed that all slave owners, for the most part, were treated their slaves as if they were property but after reading the interview I learned that was not always the case. The interview I read made it seem as if she was more of a maid rather than a slave and she did not perform hard labor, which surprised me. Also like you, I felt like Bibb was the side of slavery I typically think about when I think of slavery.

    • I think you bring up a really interesting point when you highlight slaveowners how actually viewed their slaves as human. On the other hand, they seemed to treat their slaves relatively well compared to others, affording them at least some shred of dignity. On the other hand, I was always under the impression that slaveowners could justify, and live them with themselves, because they saw African slaves as subhuman. Despite the slightly better treatment, I almost think it’s more horrific that certain slavesowners did in fact views their slaves as human, and yet carried on enslaving them all the same.

    • The familial bonds some slaves felt as well as their affection for masters who treated them well was really surprising to me. However, if I was suddenly taken away and forced into servitude, I would not care who it was for, I’d want to get out because I had known freedom before. Many slaves were born into slavery and never knew any different. They probably thought that their life was a normal one for a black person. I think that goes a long way to explain why some former slaves reflected fondly on their old masters and lifestyle.

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